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11:09:19 AM Hikki: crawls on meg
11:11:52 AM Meg (meginatree): snuggles
11:11:57 AM Hikki: ;u; uuuuuu
11:12:11 AM Meg (meginatree): /slowly sneaks to Discedo
11:12:31 AM Hikki: sob i have so much to study before i start actually playing venezia.......
11:12:36 AM Meg (meginatree): noooo
11:12:41 AM Meg (meginatree): I didn't for Romana...
11:13:13 AM Hikki: no really i mean even really basic stuff......
11:13:30 AM Hikki: i need to know how she would react to like
11:13:38 AM Hikki: france and spain and austria.......
11:13:39 AM Meg (meginatree): ;u;
11:13:53 AM Hikki: she's not like male Italy, she doesn't just cheerfully greet everyone
11:13:55 AM Hikki: i mean she does but
11:14:30 AM Meg (meginatree): do like
11:14:36 AM Meg (meginatree): a musebox post and I will just
11:14:43 AM Meg (meginatree): send everyone there...
11:14:57 AM Hikki: oh god but i am so scared of embarrassing myself by showing how little I really know........
11:15:02 AM Meg (meginatree): That is how I worked it out
11:15:16 AM Meg (meginatree): Oh gosh Hikki my first Romana threads were awful she was too Romano like
11:17:55 AM Hikki: oh.......
11:19:36 AM Meg (meginatree): yeah
11:19:37 AM Meg (meginatree): so!
11:19:40 AM Meg (meginatree): Don't worry!
11:20:35 AM Hikki: ;u; okie
11:21:01 AM Meg (meginatree): /grabby hands
11:21:03 AM Hikki: well idk about France but.....
11:21:16 AM Meg (meginatree): And if I can help I will!
11:21:23 AM Hikki: wif Spain I think Venezia gets maybe a little, like.......
11:21:24 AM Hikki: pushy?
11:21:28 AM Hikki: but in a well-meaning way.....
11:21:47 AM Meg (meginatree): likkke tries to make Spain relax pushy or?
11:21:58 AM Hikki: no like
11:22:20 AM Hikki: lmfao it's kind of rude because Spain is her elder but it's like
11:22:24 AM Hikki: i did so well spain
11:22:26 AM Hikki: look at what i did
11:22:38 AM Meg (meginatree): bragging?
11:22:39 AM Hikki: why am i having trouble with words...........
11:22:50 AM Hikki: k.....ind of.....?
11:23:03 AM Meg (meginatree): ahh cute
11:23:07 AM Hikki: like
11:23:46 AM Hikki: first there was the whole bit during the civil war
11:23:55 AM Hikki: with Italy giving its support to Spain
11:24:22 AM Hikki: and Italy's attitude was something like, I'm going to help her become great again! and oh that will probably make sorella happy too
11:24:45 AM Hikki: and i'll look good making other countries great, that's what nonna did too when she helped everybody else
11:24:55 AM Meg (meginatree): ah so there's some
11:25:01 AM Meg (meginatree): living up to nonna's name
11:25:05 AM Meg (meginatree): proving herself
11:25:16 AM Hikki: yeah I think she definitely has that
11:25:20 AM Hikki: more than Veneziano......
11:25:26 AM Hikki: family pride is important to her :(
11:25:30 AM Meg (meginatree): and some Look at me Spain, look I am helping you, aren't you happy, you should be grateful?
11:25:36 AM Hikki: yes
11:25:43 AM Meg (meginatree): Yeah defs
11:26:12 AM Hikki: as a little girl she didn't really care much about family pride, living up to nonna's memory, etc.
11:26:27 AM Hikki: she remembered nonna being very sad a lot
11:28:07 AM Hikki: but as she got older--and this is where i really struggle with her view of France, because Napoleon was actually Italian and Napoleonic France helped speed up the movement towards the Risorgimento, but also, you know, France--she wanted to be a big girl and do big girl things, but she was also lonely and wanted her sister
11:28:42 AM Hikki: and she thought, ah, that's what it is, and she wanted to make people look at her and her sister and say, see, look at that family, that's a family to be respected
11:29:09 AM Meg (meginatree): ohhh cute
11:29:12 AM Meg (meginatree): See Romana
11:29:20 AM Meg (meginatree): deep down considers France a sister
11:29:33 AM Meg (meginatree): And the same with Spain with some mother figure in there
11:29:49 AM Meg (meginatree): But she will never ever say that unless it's in a case where she really needs something
11:30:06 AM Meg (meginatree): Then she breaks out the But Sorellona... and puppy dog eyes because yeah
11:30:16 AM Meg (meginatree): But.... damn
11:30:27 AM Meg (meginatree): Idk where I'm going with this it's 2:30 sob
11:30:47 AM Hikki: it's okay snuggles ;o;
11:31:00 AM Hikki: but yeah that's the main thing I'm concerned with is
11:31:10 AM Hikki: how would Italy react towards France.........
11:32:34 AM Meg (meginatree): Well
11:32:47 AM Meg (meginatree): my main suggestion is talk to femFrance players and discuss it?
11:32:53 AM Meg (meginatree): that's how I work stuff out
11:32:57 AM Hikki: ah good idea........
11:33:03 AM Hikki: i should talk to fanny about this stuff too......
11:33:11 AM Meg (meginatree): That helps!
11:34:44 AM Hikki: also with Spain, there were some Italian-born queens of Spain who were pretty powerful :|a
11:34:54 AM Meg (meginatree): yup
11:34:56 AM Meg (meginatree): okay
11:34:58 AM Meg (meginatree): so like
11:35:06 AM Meg (meginatree): http://fettuttittes.livejournal.com/909.html?thread=115341#t115341 this is Romana and France. Male
11:35:08 AM Meg (meginatree): France
11:35:11 AM Meg (meginatree): and like okay
11:35:21 AM Meg (meginatree): she's in a point where she really does need to talk
11:35:37 AM Meg (meginatree): she's ww2 era so
11:35:48 AM Meg (meginatree): and she won't talk to anyone at home because just
11:35:52 AM Meg (meginatree): Spain would worry
11:35:57 AM Meg (meginatree): Venezia would too
11:36:11 AM Meg (meginatree): France is out because she feels so guilty she can't even look at her
11:36:19 AM Meg (meginatree): Male France is still France
11:37:05 AM Meg (meginatree): But he's not the one she grew up with? So while he can see where she's coming from, they don;t know each other well enough that Romana feels she can't talk to him
11:37:08 AM Meg (meginatree): if this makes sense
11:37:23 AM Hikki: no it does ;o;
11:37:41 AM Meg (meginatree): I am not sure how it is relevant but oh well
11:39:57 AM Hikki: oh..... ;o;
11:40:00 AM Hikki: what's France's canon point?
11:41:01 AM Meg (meginatree): 2011
11:41:22 AM Meg (meginatree): she's 1943, straight after the August bombing of Naples
11:41:34 AM Meg (meginatree): The one that was the worst one
11:44:40 AM Hikki: oh.... ;o;
11:45:06 AM Meg (meginatree): yuuuo
11:45:12 AM Meg (meginatree): not a good place
11:47:09 AM Hikki: definitely not :(
11:47:46 AM Hikki: oh Romana.....
11:47:47 AM Hikki: ;o;
11:49:03 AM Hikki: sob if Venezia were there she'd just pushily but gently take over cleaning Romana's wounds......
11:49:23 AM Meg (meginatree): Aha Romana wouldn't let her
11:49:31 AM Meg (meginatree): She would have hid it from Venezia
11:49:39 AM Hikki: 8( nobody cares what you want, Romana
11:49:45 AM Meg (meginatree): B|
11:49:46 AM Hikki: if you don't let her do this, she'll worry
11:49:51 AM Hikki: do you want to make her worry more?
11:49:54 AM Hikki: /puppy dog eyes
11:49:58 AM Meg (meginatree): B|
11:50:09 AM Meg (meginatree): She would never let Venezia find out about being injured
11:50:28 AM Hikki: too bad the devices don't care about that
11:50:31 AM Meg (meginatree): I imagine by 1943 they'd start to be a bit scattered if that makes sense?
11:50:34 AM Meg (meginatree): Oh well then
11:50:39 AM Meg (meginatree): She'd just break down
11:50:41 AM Hikki: ;A;
11:50:48 AM Meg (meginatree): Because Venezia wasn't supposed to see dammit
11:51:09 AM Meg (meginatree): also
11:51:12 AM Hikki: oh god it would be
11:51:16 AM Hikki: the most beautiful thing........
11:51:18 AM Hikki: PICTURING IT NOW........
11:51:22 AM Meg (meginatree): I must sleep ;u;
11:51:24 AM Meg (meginatree): w-what?
11:51:46 AM Hikki: they end up hugging each other and crying together ;o;
11:51:52 AM Hikki: romana because she can't handle venezia knowing
11:52:03 AM Hikki: and venezia because she feels guilty for dragging romana into a stupid, stupid, stupid war
11:52:35 AM Meg (meginatree): ohhhh ;u;
11:52:44 AM Meg (meginatree): Hikki please come to Disco
11:52:46 AM Meg (meginatree): ;u;
11:52:47 AM Hikki: ijowefew
11:52:48 AM Hikki: ;A;
11:52:50 AM Meg (meginatree): I need this
11:52:52 AM Hikki: oiwjefew
11:52:56 AM Meg (meginatree): ;u;
11:53:01 AM Meg (meginatree): I will help you and and
11:53:07 AM Hikki: oh you know what would be an interesting canon point.......
11:53:14 AM Hikki: during the terror of the red brigade............
11:53:29 AM Meg (meginatree): oh I am not sure when that is is it against Russia?
11:53:45 AM Hikki: nnnnn that was the domestic terrorist group
11:53:49 AM Hikki: at one point they kidnapped uhhhhh
11:53:52 AM Hikki: a senator, I think?
11:53:54 AM Meg (meginatree): o-oh fail me
11:53:56 AM Hikki: held him hostage in Rome
11:54:01 AM Hikki: it was in like the 70s or 80s
11:54:07 AM Hikki: it was terrifying because they couldn't find him
11:54:13 AM Hikki: the CIA came in and everything, I think
11:54:20 AM Hikki: but they couldn't find him
11:54:21 AM Hikki: for like
11:54:23 AM Hikki: three weeks or so
11:54:28 AM Hikki: and then they found his body in an apartment in Rome
11:54:51 AM Hikki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigades
11:54:59 AM Meg (meginatree): yeah I found it
11:55:30 AM Meg (meginatree): Ohhh interesting
11:55:33 AM Meg (meginatree): Let me think
11:55:34 AM Meg (meginatree): okay
11:55:39 AM Meg (meginatree): FemPrussia in 1904
11:55:49 AM Meg (meginatree): Germany is 1916, England is 1922
11:55:54 AM Meg (meginatree): Romana is 1943
11:56:02 AM Meg (meginatree): *femEngland
11:56:18 AM Meg (meginatree): New Zealand is some time in ww2 I think
11:56:25 AM Meg (meginatree): I forget the nordics
11:56:36 AM Hikki: oh and it looks like the Red Brigade was largely based in the north
11:56:39 AM Meg (meginatree): and Japan is 1941
11:56:41 AM Hikki: at least, the founding members were northerners
11:56:46 AM Meg (meginatree): ohhh cool
11:56:48 AM Meg (meginatree): well
11:56:50 AM Meg (meginatree): not cool
11:56:54 AM Meg (meginatree): you know what I mean
11:57:05 AM Meg (meginatree): um oh and America is the 60's
11:57:09 AM Meg (meginatree): oh and bb Canada
11:57:24 AM Hikki: yeah, Trentino, Emilio, and Rome
11:57:28 AM Hikki: that's where the founders are from
11:57:34 AM Meg (meginatree): everyone else is modern I think so that's France, fempan, China Greece, Romano
11:57:39 AM Hikki: and they formed the brigade at the University of Trento
11:57:49 AM Meg (meginatree): ahh I see
11:58:41 AM Hikki: ohhhhhh wow if she came from the late 80s
11:58:43 AM Hikki: venezia would
11:58:46 AM Hikki: not be pleased with France
11:58:54 AM Hikki: In 1985 some Italian members living in France returned to Italy. The same year, French president François Mitterrand guaranteed immunity from extradition to BR members living in France who had made a break with their past, were not sentenced for violent crimes and had started a new life.
11:59:08 AM Meg (meginatree): w h o o p s
11:59:25 AM Meg (meginatree): http://coniurati.livejournal.com/1854.html#cutid1 there
11:59:41 AM Hikki: Mitterrand based this oral promise, which was upheld until the 2000s by France, on the alleged non-conformity of Italian legislation with European standards.
11:59:48 AM Hikki: :|
11:59:53 AM Meg (meginatree): /headdesk
12:00:12 PM Meg (meginatree): ahhhh okay
12:00:18 PM Meg (meginatree): seriously need to sleep
12:00:20 PM Meg (meginatree): 3am whoops
12:00:27 PM Meg (meginatree): /snuggles!!!!
12:00:31 PM Hikki: ;o;
12:00:33 PM Hikki: good night!!!!
12:00:58 PM Meg (meginatree): but yes! please consider ;u;
12:01:13 PM Hikki: i'll think about it.......
12:01:16 PM Hikki: i still do want to study more.......
12:01:19 PM Meg (meginatree): have a good day Hikikikikikiki
12:01:25 PM Hikki: ;u; you too megu
12:01:27 PM Hikki: good night......